Monday, August 23, 2010

BN Leaders Admit to Their Crooked Ways!!

"Gerakan secretary-general Teng Chang Yeow chided DAP......

He is further quoted, “We are glad to know DAP has mastered the art of sweeping dirt under the carpet. We welcome them to the world of cover-up,”

Maybe I read it wrong. Maybe my understanding is all wrong. But I thought you welcome someone to where ever it is you are. Like you welcome someone to your house. You don't go to your neighbour's house and welcome a friend there do you?

So, there is such a thing as a world of cover up. firstly you got to know that such a world exists to even quote it. Obviously this Teng fellow knows of such a world. And he knows what it is. Maybe because he is already there. And to take the onus of welcoming someone who he obviously knows not to have been there, then he obviously does so from the door ways of this world.

He says " we are glad to know that DAP has mastered the art of sweeping dirt under the carpet." Well, Teng, I don't know what that means. I don't know what that is. So obviously I don't know what it takes to master it. Obviously you know. You know what it takes to master this art. And having, as you seem to suggest, met the standards as you and your lot have required, now bestow the welcome to DAP.

Glad to see that BN has the capacity to be honest sometimes. At least you admit to your sweeping things under the carpet. But then before you call DAP hypocrites, you should know that, DAP are new at it. And if this is what has finally qualified them to be admitted to your domain, then surely accusing them of hypocrisy would be wrong. However, now that they are in your domain, then from here on if they were to make those suggestions you deem hypocritical, you can then call them that.


At September 12, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Blogger Alpha-Stager said...

A case of the pot calling the kettle black? :)

At September 12, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Blogger Alpha-Stager said...

A case of the pot calling the kettle black perhaps? :)

At November 27, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi there @oldfart50,

Are you a Malaysian eligible to run for candidacy? If so please note the below :

Third Force (Malaysian Green Party)

1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy.
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution.

The above group is just in case Haris/RPK themselves are also trojans (I'd say a clique of closet elitists distancing themselves from the iteneratnt bloggers via moderation to oblibvion of comments - but only THIS CRIME against humanity so far). We as citizens can't trust any political parties (even NGOs) and have to run as independents if needed.

Until they prove to be trojans though, I consider MCLM's 3rd Force viable and a foil to hide behind till they foul up big if ever . . . The real 3rd Force is always the NEUTRAL citizen, no one else with any agenda whatsoever. Who knows they might grant everything suggested !

Apart from the above 3 items we neutral citizens need to :

Disallow ANY Oligarchy/Nepotism
End/Buy-Up Toll Concessions
End Forced Military Conscriptions
End Vehicular-APs
Block VAT / Block GST
Lower Election Deposits from 15,000 to 15.00 (so everyone can join and not be prevented by this plutocratic deterrence the poorest man has a right to join and 15,000 is prohibitive, must be lowered to allow the poorest)

cont . . .

At November 27, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

cont from above . . .

Then study the below as well for good measure :


USA, UK and Malaysia, are representative democracies (2nd class version) and thus not truly open systems being limited to the whims and fancies of parliamentarians alone.

*Participatory Democracy* (1st class version) is a process emphasizing the broad participation of constituents in the direction and operation of political systems not in isolation of populist political groups but inclusive of academic and bureaucratic groups.

*Participatory Democracy* avoids the concept of the people having a single view with the inevitable limitations that come from trying to agree what that view is.

Government is heavily decentralized into smaller independent groups to allow personalized preferences within groups to be expressed in a functional manner PREFERRED by each particular group.

The system seeks to avoid problems with centralized and electoral governance, while still providing a stable democratic system and ensuring all forms of human expression especially those diametrically opposed to be allowed expression. For example theocrat moralists / and sin industries (adult or gambling) can all be represented and functional even while proponents within each group do not use or believe in the other.

All expressions of humanity thus will have their own place, albeit in a highly separated manner. Try the below related links for articles/discussions on Participative Democracy :

Shadow cabinet Thursday, October 14, 2010 (Ktemoc) Authoritarianism vs. Seperation of Powers and Complacency of Citizens

Unsuitable to Vote : Individuals Causing Notable Conflict of Interest in Local Council Elections - Original Article 6th

The column that wasn’t – Marina Mahathir - 3rd March 2010

Also these charts to prevent conflict of interest / vested interest :


All the above should be 3rd Force Agenda. Any further thoughts and ideas? Remember that we are all leaders, that all citizens are equal in a modern democracy. The 3rd Force method will be to present a governance paradigm so transparent and attractive and protective of the Rakyat that everyone would vote for 3rd Force.

MCLM of course can take up the above, which means I will not need to form anything to implement the above, but someone has to address the inclination towards 'Elegant Silence' or at least 'Harmful Delays'. If they turn trojan on us, then we NEUTRAL 3rd Forcers must be very prepared to run on our own with whatever little resources or knowledge compounded by sheer lack of ethos (or lack of reputation/infamy) we have.

Finally this, where DAP looks like it's standards are slipping :

DAP's democracy in Penang (Tuesday, November 16, 2010) (read commentaries and be aware that Aliran fettes DAP rather than be neutral)

Compensation for Rep's Kin - by Sunday Star - 18th APR 2010

The Gambier Threat - Mid 2010

Invasive By-Laws Against Sovereignty of Title/Land Owners

Be prepared readers, for like Aliran which failed to highlight or even suggest a re-election, MCLM could turn out to be an exercise in self promotion that leads nowhere! Joining Pakatan Rayat to cure it or setting up an Independent's group could be the other option if nothing materialises but then again, true colours would be revealed by GE13 . . .

cont . . .

At November 27, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

cont from above . . .

3 ACID TESTs for MPs

1) MPs can show love for the Rakyat by lowering the Election Deposit from 15,000 to 15.00.

2) MPs can also show love for the Rakyat by donating their entire salaries if they have assets worth 5 million or more. First of course the MPs must be able to DECLARE ASSETS to Rakyat *NOT* the PM or in Penang’s case the CM.

3) MPs can opt to redistribute ‘funeral funds’ to all civil servants. 750K for a CM or 120K for an assemblyman is FAR TOO MUCH. Everyone dies the same way, so there should be no difference in quantum. See which CMs/MPs opt for an ‘equal quantum’ of funeral compensation for all civil servants and you will see which CMs/MPs love the Rakyat again.

See which MPs rubberstamp the above 3 suggestions into reality instead of ru(o)bberstamping Vehicular-APs and Toll Concessions and Forced Military Conscriptions and you will find out which MPs care for the Rakyat. See which MPs reverse Vehicular-APs, remove Toll Concessions and ‘voluntarise’ Forced Military Conscriptions as well.

3 Items in addition to 3+13

And don't say you're old, Zaid is near 60, Tengku Razaleigh and many others past 70. 40s means not even born when these guys were in politics. What do you think Paul? Another 3rd Force faction if you can/dare run?


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